[wilhelmtux-discussion] AW: Antwort: Firmenlogos auf der Website des Parlaments

Claude Almansi c.almansi at bluewin.ch
Die Dez 10 13:31:10 CET 2002


The point is that out of all the parliamentary websites listed by the
interparliamentary union, only three others have logos: Azebaidjan, Togo
and Zimbabwe. Not even these go as far as declaring themselves
"partners" of the firms whose logos they show. Video conferencing? Basic
Windows + Office contain Netmeeting, which is perfectly apt for informal
vieoconferencing. I was present at a formal, high tech videoconference
between UCLA and the Italian ministry of foreign affairs during the
"Italian in the World" week in October: a lot of hassle, and nothing to
write home about. Is it really worth giving the image of a Parliament
sold to Microsoft monopoly?



-----Message d'origine-----
De : Stephan.Berger at pd.admin.ch [mailto:Stephan.Berger at pd.admin.ch] 
Envoyé : mardi 10 décembre 2002 09:28
À : c.almansi at bluewin.ch; mjaeger at iframe.ch;
wilhelmtux-discussion at wilhelmtux.ch
Objet : RE: RE : [wilhelmtux-discussion] AW: Antwort: Firmenlogos auf
der Website des Parlaments

hi everybody,

as a great fan and user of linux and other open source software, i watch
your discussions with great interest. but i'd like to warn you at this
point not to make yourself ridiculous. as one of the parliament's system
administrators i can confirm that daniel schweizer is not too wrong. 

microso~1 has provided us a free video streaming solution to broadcast
parlamentary sessions to everybody, without m$ we wouldn't have been
able to provide this service, because of lacking human ressources.
that's why there was a contract which forced us to present their logo on
our web site. this contract has ended, and the logo has gone. that's

as much as some of us would like to change our intranet and internet
servers to a unix or linux based platform, as many obstacles are in our
way. we just don't have enough human ressources to migrate in a flawless
and swift manner, our servers contain at least 500'000 html pages,
several sql databases, several search engines, etc. 

but our intentions haven't stopped, we forsee not to be exposed to
internet information server's crappyness forever. we are making progress
towards the usage of open source software. but you know, structures
within parliament are more complicated that you probably might guess,
and i'd like to tell you that your agitations don't help me much to get
to my goals, they are rather cotraproductive and don't help to ignite
the local v.i.p.'s sympathies with the linux community and your group. 


Stephan Berger
System administrator

Information systems and new technologies
Parliamentary Services,  CH-3003 Bern

-----Original Message-----
From: Claude Almansi [mailto:c.almansi at bluewin.ch] 
Sent: Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 00:56
To: mjaeger at iframe.ch; wilhelmtux-discussion at wilhelmtux.ch
Subject: RE : [wilhelmtux-discussion] AW: Antwort: Firmenlogos auf der
Website des Parlaments

ROFLMAO*, Michael!!!

This correspondance should be forwarded to the press: in these rather
gloomy times, we must share the laugh with others. How could Mr
Schweizer dare / be so stupid as to write "According to you, what is
wrong with the fact that parliamentary office, out of thrift,is striving
to obtain some services from partners in this manner [i.e. by putting up
the Microsoft and Eurospider logos], instead of making the tax-payers
bear the brunt of them" (his e-mail to you,  13.11.2002 11:56 )

And then his  explanation for the disappearance of said logos: "You will
probably not believe it if I tell you that the contracts with the two
corporations, time-limited from start, have expired in the meantime. Yet
it is so".

(I've translated the quotes for the other non German-speakers on the



*ROFLMAO = Rolling on the Floor Laughing My Ass Off, for the puritans
among you who never wallow in chat rooms.

Wahrscheinlich glauben Sie es nicht, wenn ich Ihnen sage, dass die von
Anfang an befristeten Verträge mit den zwei Firmen inzwischen abgelaufen
sind. Doch es ist tatsächlich so. -----Message d'origine----- De :
wilhelmtux-discussion-admin at wilhelmtux.ch
[mailto:wilhelmtux-discussion-admin at wilhelmtux.ch] De la part de
mjaeger at iframe.ch Envoyé : lundi 9 décembre 2002 10:44 À :
wilhelmtux-discussion at wilhelmtux.ch
Objet : [wilhelmtux-discussion] AW: Antwort: Firmenlogos auf der Website
des Parlaments

hallo liste,

ich musste einfach nachfragen, warum die logos von der parlamentsseite
verschwunden sind. man lese und lache:

----- Weitergeleitet von Michael Jaeger/iframe am 09.12.2002 10:43 -----

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